
Some years ago I moderated a panel discussion featuring a number of television’s biggest stars. The event took place just prior to Election Day, so I began by asking, “Is it OK for actors to be openly involved in and vocal about politics?” A tinge of unease came over their faces. You would have thought I had asked them to disrobe. They, like many performers, worried that taking a political stand could alienate half of their viewers, or even derail their career.
Ed Asner knows what it means to pay a price for taking a stand. By 1982 Ed had seven EMMYs under his belt, many of which were won portraying newsman Lou Grant in two different television series (The Mary Tyler Moore Show and Lou Grant). He was one of the most popular and successful actors in Hollywood, and Lou Grant, then in its fifth season, was still in Nielsen’s top ten. But Ed made one fatal mistake. No, he didn’t sexually harass his co-workers, or sell illegal drugs, or violate underage boys. Instead, his “crime” was to speak out against the Reagan administration’s Central America policy, and to help send humanitarian aid to Nicaraguan civilians under attack by U.S.-backed Contras. Suddenly CBS cancelled Lou Grant, and Ed was effectively blackballed from headlining his own network series. But Ed never stopped working, and today at age 88, he is still one of the most sought-after actors in America, and still one of the most politically active.
I first met Ed in 2010 while he was shooting a film in High Point, and took time out to visit the Triad Today studio to tape an extended interview (which is archived on JimLongworth.net). We recently spoke by phone about his new book, The Grouchy Historian: An Old Time Lefty Defends Our Constitution Against Right-Wing Hypocrites and Nutjobs, which he co-authored with TV scribe Ed Weinberger. The book clears up common misperceptions about our great document (it never mentions one-man/one-vote), and about the men who framed it (many were Deists more than they were Christians), while taking jabs at modern-day politicians and pundits who routinely misrepresent the Constitution in order to advance their own agenda.
Jim: Why did you write the book? And why now?
Ed: Well, both Ed Weinberger and I were commiserating with each other on how unhappy we were with the right-wing constantly claiming the Constitution was theirs, and we decided that some counter-thrust should occur.
Jim: What’s worse, right-wing nuts who abuse the Constitution, or a president who hasn’t read it?
Ed: [laughs] What’s the difference? He’s a pip. Trump is a P.T. Barnum like I’ve never witnessed in my life. There’s a sucker born every minute, and I think he’s corralled most of them.
Jim: Should the 25th Amendment, which allows for a president to be removed from office due to incapacitation, be interpreted to include “mental” incapacitation?
Ed: I’ll probably be jumped on from every quarter for saying this, but it’s an inexact science. You can get one expert to testify to one’s sanity, and you can get another expert to say that the same man is looney tunes.
Jim: In the section of your book titled, “Asner’s Articles”, you advocate for free healthcare. Will America ever get a Medicare-For-All system like the one Bernie Sanders advocates?
Ed: Why is Canada’s achievement so impossible for us? Why? They have single payer, and they do so well, but we can’t seem to guide our policies that way.
Jim: The week before your book was released, 59 people were murdered at a concert in Las Vegas by a man with over a dozen assault rifles. Since then, another 26 people were killed in similar fashion while attending church services in Texas. Can we have effective gun control, and still preserve the spirit of the 2nd Amendment?
Ed: Yes, there’s a way if you put the emphasis on the “militia” (police and military) being well-armed, and not individuals. I am shocked and disgusted that after that Las Vegas incident, that nobody in Congress has talked about gun control.
Jim: Let’s be realistic. Right-wingers are not going to buy your book.
Ed: They’ll borrow it [both laugh].
Jim: So then as an old Lefty, how do you ever reach the far Right, and help them have a better understanding of the Constitution, and of the issues facing us today?
Ed: Our problem in this country is that those folks don’t read, and Betsy DeVos is not helping them. If we could lead a mass education policy in this country, getting people to read what they should be reading, then we might get such books as mine popularly read.
Jim: Do you ever regret being politically active, and getting Lou Grant cancelled?
Ed: I second guess on it all the time. My great regret is that a show with ideas was removed from TV, and I don’t think we’ve had a show with ideas to take its place since. The causes we covered on Lou Grant are still untreated, and that’s the guilt I carry. But I don’t relive my past beyond that.
Jim: Like me, you’re an Independent, but what has to happen for Democrats to take back control of Congress and the White House?
Ed: Getting off their asses for one thing. If some preacher could come along and show Democrats the suffering caused by Republican policies, then I think that preacher could affect a large following.
Jim: So what would it take for you to stop being grouchy?
Ed: I think that avuncular is very attractive, and I like filling those shoes. I don’t want to stop being grouchy, and mind your own God damn business! [both laugh]
The Grouchy Historian is available in book stores and from Amazon.com.






























Posted November 21, 2017 By Triad TodayJFK and the First Thanksgiving
Presidents are only human, so they make mistakes. No, I’m not talking about Donald Trump’s claim that President Obama wiretapped Trump Towers, or George Bush’s decision to invade the wrong country after 9/11. I’m talking about John Kennedy, and how he misread history, unintentionally insulted the State of Virginia, and was compelled to make amends.
The story begins on Wednesday December 4, 1619. That’s the day 38 English settlers from the London Company, navigated their ship down the James River and onto Berkeley Hundred (Harrison’s Landing), in what is now Charles City, Virginia, just 20 miles upstream from Jamestown, which had been settled twelve years prior. The landing party was led by Captain John Woodlief, who, as prescribed in the company charter, ordered a day of Thanksgiving to be observed upon their arrival, and every December 4th thereafter.
Over time, Berkeley became known for its historic firsts. The first bourbon whiskey was made there in 1621 (by a preacher no less). “Taps” was played for the first time while the Union army was encamped at Berkeley in 1862. And, of course, it was the site of America’s first Thanksgiving. More on that in a moment.
In 1907 Berkeley was purchased by John Jamieson who had served as a Union drummer boy during the army’s encampment at the plantation. Ownership later fell to his son (and my friend) Malcolm, who passed away in 1997. Mac loved Berkeley and was aggressive in marketing the historic site, including through the use of promotional videos and commercials which I helped to produce. He invited the public to tour the house and grounds, sold Berkeley boxwoods and bourbon, and held an annual Thanksgiving pageant which attracted tourists from across the country. But the celebration wasn’t always widely recognized.
One hundred years after his father beat the Yankee drums at Berkeley, Mac was upset by something another Yankee did. In the fall of 1962, President Kennedy issued his yearly Thanksgiving Proclamation in which he recognized his home state of Massachusetts as the site of America’s first Thanksgiving. And so, on November 9th of that year, Virginia State Senator John Wicker was prompted by Mac to write to the President, and point out Kennedy’s faux pas. In his telegram, Wicker referenced historical records about Berkeley’s celebration, which took place one full year before the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth in 1620.
Later that year, Kennedy confidant and noted historian Arthur Schlesinger sent a reply to Wicker with a tongue-in-cheek apology from the President. According to Berkeley records, Schlesinger “attributed the error to unconquerable New England bias on the part of the White House staff.”
The following year, on November 5, 1963, President Kennedy had to eat crow during his annual Thanksgiving proclamation, saying, “Over three centuries ago, our forefathers in Virginia AND Massachusetts, far from home, in a lonely wilderness, set aside a day of thanksgiving.” Kennedy’s New England bias wouldn’t allow him to disavow Plymouth entirely, but Mac was happy that Berkeley finally gained official recognition for holding the first Thanksgiving, even if it was a shared honor. Sadly, it was to be Kennedy’s last proclamation. He was assassinated seventeen days later in Dallas.
The holiday season is now upon us, and it’s a time for celebrating with friends and family, and for remembering fondly those who are no longer with us. And in this season of giving thanks, perhaps we would all do well to emulate those weary English settlers, and just be thankful for surviving another day of our long journey. So here’s a Berkeley bourbon toast to Captain Woodlief, a little drummer boy, old Mac, and to that Yankee president who finally set the record straight. Happy Thanksgiving!